Comments on: Episode 2: Wednesday Will Not Beat Us Down!! haha http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/ 'cause sometimes cactus juice isn't enough to deal with AWS Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:40:10 +0000 http://podbean.com/?v=3.2 by: Lulu http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90509 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:43:41 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90509 Ah no! I'll email it to you guys Ah no! I’ll email it to you guys

]]> by: Lulu http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90508 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:40:53 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90508 Aww my post didn't show... here it is again... I hope it works... First off I love you ladies Aww my post didn’t show… here it is again… I hope it works…

First off I love you ladies

]]> by: Lulu http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90502 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:25:34 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-90502 First off I love you ladies First off I love you ladies

]]> by: BAV http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89933 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:01:52 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89933 Hey you guys have some great ideas about zutara and avatar in general and I gotta say listening to these pod-casts definitely helps with my aws, so thanks for doing this. Your hero vs. anti-hero discussion and some of the reactions from other commenters here has got me thinking about what Zuko's role in avatar actually is avatar. Technically I'm not sure that he's an anti-hero in the traditional definition - which is still a hero, but someone with questionable character traits, such as loose morals or destructive tendencies. Zuko technically started as the villain who was revealed to have honorable character traits, so I wonder if he's more of a "anti-villain." Just a thought. You guys talked a little bit about tradition and story lines and setting up stories and if you want to go more into that I recommend tvtropes.com. It lists different themes and devices used in different tv-series and movies. The avatar section is at this address: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AvatarTheLastAirbender Thanks for pod-cast. Hope you guys get some sleep some time soon. Hey you guys have some great ideas about zutara and avatar in general and I gotta say listening to these pod-casts definitely helps with my aws, so thanks for doing this.

Your hero vs. anti-hero discussion and some of the reactions from other commenters here has got me thinking about what Zuko’s role in avatar actually is avatar. Technically I’m not sure that he’s an anti-hero in the traditional definition - which is still a hero, but someone with questionable character traits, such as loose morals or destructive tendencies. Zuko technically started as the villain who was revealed to have honorable character traits, so I wonder if he’s more of a “anti-villain.” Just a thought.

You guys talked a little bit about tradition and story lines and setting up stories and if you want to go more into that I recommend tvtropes.com. It lists different themes and devices used in different tv-series and movies.

The avatar section is at this address: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AvatarTheLastAirbender

Thanks for pod-cast. Hope you guys get some sleep some time soon.

]]> by: dramaelfie http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89644 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:06:44 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89644 Yay! You checked out the link to the 'Zutara Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy' site I gave you! ^^ It's genius, no? Anyways, great episode as usual!!! I look forward to the next one. Yay! You checked out the link to the ‘Zutara Evidence for the Intellectual Dummy’ site I gave you! ^^ It’s genius, no? Anyways, great episode as usual!!! I look forward to the next one.

]]> by: foxysuji http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89449 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:51:40 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89449 omg hehe yaay new pod cast!! .. i loved this one.. so much compare and contrast and its FAMAZING .. hehe oh i was thinking .. when u mensioned the mothers of zuko and katara .. and the fact that kataras mother was killed in the fire nation raid.. i got a thought.. remeber in the episodes of the swamp . and how katara saw her mother ?.. and she like ran up to her going " MOM?!" that makes me wonder.. is she REAALLY dead.. cuz seriously .. if she was really dead.. why would she be so happy to SEE her.. if she KNOWS she is no longer amungst the living ( ignore my spelling i know im horrible XD ) .. but yeah that was just a thought .. XP.. but once again . AWESOME job .. keep up the kick arss work and cant wait to hear the next one ^_^ ill be sure to check in every now and then.. * sighs * i need to get working on my zutara 100 pic challange again >>;. aand start drawing more zutara again .. well till next time.. ~ JA NE!!! omg hehe yaay new pod cast!! .. i loved this one.. so much compare and contrast and its FAMAZING .. hehe oh i was thinking .. when u mensioned the mothers of zuko and katara .. and the fact that kataras mother was killed in the fire nation raid.. i got a thought.. remeber in the episodes of the swamp . and how katara saw her mother ?.. and she like ran up to her going ” MOM?!” that makes me wonder.. is she REAALLY dead.. cuz seriously .. if she was really dead.. why would she be so happy to SEE her.. if she KNOWS she is no longer amungst the living ( ignore my spelling i know im horrible XD ) .. but yeah that was just a thought .. XP.. but once again . AWESOME job .. keep up the kick arss work and cant wait to hear the next one ^_^ ill be sure to check in every now and then.. * sighs * i need to get working on my zutara 100 pic challange again >>;. aand start drawing more zutara again .. well till next time..

~ JA NE!!!

]]> by: suiseiusagi http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89396 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:32:32 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89396 ...Where did the second half of my comment go!? GAH! Technology hates me, too. Well, what I had said is that "Beautiful Disaster" by Kelly Clarkson is another song that makes me think of Zutara and I had more to say but it's not showing up now. ;_; Anyways, keep up the great work! (Oh, and as for bloodbending, maybe Katara will use it in an act of rage- even unwillingly- against... I dunno... the person "with a tie to her and Sokka's past" and feel the need to be forgiven, herself. She'll definately use it again, though, or they wouldn't have had her learn it in the first place.) …Where did the second half of my comment go!? GAH! Technology hates me, too. Well, what I had said is that “Beautiful Disaster” by Kelly Clarkson is another song that makes me think of Zutara and I had more to say but it’s not showing up now. ;_; Anyways, keep up the great work! (Oh, and as for bloodbending, maybe Katara will use it in an act of rage- even unwillingly- against… I dunno… the person “with a tie to her and Sokka’s past” and feel the need to be forgiven, herself. She’ll definately use it again, though, or they wouldn’t have had her learn it in the first place.)

]]> by: suiseiusagi http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89392 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:27:09 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89392 It's too bad I don't know Pride & Prejudice. ^^; I know Wuthering Heights, does that get me any cookies? It’s too bad I don’t know Pride & Prejudice. ^^; I know Wuthering Heights, does that get me any cookies?

]]> by: xxforgivenxx http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89295 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:47:32 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89295 HAHA!!! I've finally found a zutara website! Thanx greenifyme for putting it on u're DA! Anywayz, I thought that it would be a relief not 2 have kataangers on us (i bet they think the same thing ^-^) and that that wuz a very good point given about the hero vs. antihero. Also, i enjoyed having the intro song on there. I think i heard it b4 on utube, dunno. It was this person who made these 'zutara lessons'. They were very good and thought out (well, a lot of it. The other bit was kinda fangirlish) I think that that person has the best zutara evidence (mostly in the first 3 lessons) that I have ever heard! X-tremely good! Ok! Remember: Zutara- it's the super-powered ship (blue+red= spiderman and superman colors, get it?) HAHA!!! I’ve finally found a zutara website! Thanx greenifyme for putting it on u’re DA! Anywayz, I thought that it would be a relief not 2 have kataangers on us (i bet they think the same thing ^-^) and that that wuz a very good point given about the hero vs. antihero. Also, i enjoyed having the intro song on there. I think i heard it b4 on utube, dunno. It was this person who made these ‘zutara lessons’. They were very good and thought out (well, a lot of it. The other bit was kinda fangirlish) I think that that person has the best zutara evidence (mostly in the first 3 lessons) that I have ever heard! X-tremely good! Ok! Remember: Zutara- it’s the super-powered ship (blue+red= spiderman and superman colors, get it?)

]]> by: Frankie http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89213 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:32:14 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89213 I like hearing your predictions and discussions on avatar and zutara. It makes AWS less painfull. I have a question though, do you think that maybe Katara's new hair style is suppose to look like her mother's becuase then the villain who killed Sokka's and Katara's mother would reconize it and them? Also do you think the boiling rock is not just a two parter because the gang could be trying to get Suki back but to also save Zuko? I think he'll get captured in part one but saved in part two. This is just a thoery/question of mine. Well have a nice and zutara filled day! I like hearing your predictions and discussions on avatar and zutara. It makes AWS less painfull. I have a question though, do you think that maybe Katara’s new hair style is suppose to look like her mother’s becuase then the villain who killed Sokka’s and Katara’s mother would reconize it and them? Also do you think the boiling rock is not just a two parter because the gang could be trying to get Suki back but to also save Zuko? I think he’ll get captured in part one but saved in part two. This is just a thoery/question of mine. Well have a nice and zutara filled day!

]]> by: Erica http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89164 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:14:28 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89164 Riz, if you ever need a Katara, I'm game. LOL I can actually do some pretty good Katara impressions. XDD Riz, if you ever need a Katara, I’m game. LOL I can actually do some pretty good Katara impressions. XDD

]]> by: Riz http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89119 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:24:54 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89119 Oh, and at one point when Farah said "Hello?" I almost said "Hello" back XD Oh, and at one point when Farah said “Hello?” I almost said “Hello” back XD

]]> by: Riz http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89102 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:10:53 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89102 I love your podcasts. I'm always eagerly awaiting the next one! "In fiction, an anti-hero is a protagonist who is lacking the traditional heroic attributes and qualities, and instead possesses character traits that are antithetical to heroism." In that sense, Zuko would be an anti-hero, depending on how you analyze his traits. I really liked your discussion on hero v. anti-hero in terms of "who gets the girl." I'm always for the anti-hero in that there's more complexity to the character, and it makes them seem more real. I also really liked the reference to "The Runaway." That's such a good point in regards to why Katara feels the way she does when Zuko reappears to join the group. Plus, Katara's never opened up to anyone (at least not visibly in the show) the way she did to Zuko. Of course you'd feel angry if you opened up to someone who ends up doing something to betray that trust. Grudges, indeed. Anyway, love the podcast as usual, chicas. I was supposed to post this comment yesterday when it went up, but I went out to dinner after I listened to it. Keep up the fantastic work! ~Riz Oh, and Erica sounds like Mae Whitman in some parts XD If I do an animation, I should hire her to do Katara XD I love your podcasts. I’m always eagerly awaiting the next one!

“In fiction, an anti-hero is a protagonist who is lacking the traditional heroic attributes and qualities, and instead possesses character traits that are antithetical to heroism.” In that sense, Zuko would be an anti-hero, depending on how you analyze his traits. I really liked your discussion on hero v. anti-hero in terms of “who gets the girl.” I’m always for the anti-hero in that there’s more complexity to the character, and it makes them seem more real.

I also really liked the reference to “The Runaway.” That’s such a good point in regards to why Katara feels the way she does when Zuko reappears to join the group. Plus, Katara’s never opened up to anyone (at least not visibly in the show) the way she did to Zuko. Of course you’d feel angry if you opened up to someone who ends up doing something to betray that trust. Grudges, indeed.

Anyway, love the podcast as usual, chicas. I was supposed to post this comment yesterday when it went up, but I went out to dinner after I listened to it.

Keep up the fantastic work!

~Riz

Oh, and Erica sounds like Mae Whitman in some parts XD If I do an animation, I should hire her to do Katara XD

]]> by: KyokoMari http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89099 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:00:18 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89099 Aah! another great podcast! I never understand why the belief that Aang is the hero, therefore he gets the girl in the end is so heavily clung to, and the discussion in here perfectly illustrates the reason why. That and the thing about Kataang being established fromt the very beginning. I never could believe that thye'd put all that emphasis on the Kataang in the beginning if they were just going to end up with it in the end. It'd just take away some of the magic of actually watching for the entire show if it were set in stone from the beginning! I really like the connection you made with Toph and Katara feeling guilty, too! And I've been suspcious that Bloodbending is going to come back for a while now... So, um, aside from the spazzing of mics, I loved this week's edition, even if there was no new news....But it's good that the dates haven't been shot down yet, right? :D And a HUGE thank you to you guys for featuring Halt Mich Fest! *blushes* That means a whole lot to me to hear what you guys think of it! Oh, and don't worry, Mon, you got the German pronounciation pretty spot on! ;) But augh.. I can't tell you guys how elated I was to have my art featured here, thank you again, and I'll be listening next week and always! Aah! another great podcast! I never understand why the belief that Aang is the hero, therefore he gets the girl in the end is so heavily clung to, and the discussion in here perfectly illustrates the reason why. That and the thing about Kataang being established fromt the very beginning. I never could believe that thye’d put all that emphasis on the Kataang in the beginning if they were just going to end up with it in the end. It’d just take away some of the magic of actually watching for the entire show if it were set in stone from the beginning!

I really like the connection you made with Toph and Katara feeling guilty, too! And I’ve been suspcious that Bloodbending is going to come back for a while now…

So, um, aside from the spazzing of mics, I loved this week’s edition, even if there was no new news….But it’s good that the dates haven’t been shot down yet, right? :D

And a HUGE thank you to you guys for featuring Halt Mich Fest! *blushes* That means a whole lot to me to hear what you guys think of it! Oh, and don’t worry, Mon, you got the German pronounciation pretty spot on! ;) But augh.. I can’t tell you guys how elated I was to have my art featured here, thank you again, and I’ll be listening next week and always!

]]> by: Owen http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89053 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:10:22 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89053 I can't thank you all enough for answering my question, I've longed to hear it discussed in a forum setting ever since it was birthed in my head, Thanks again, don't stop the awesomeness! :D I can’t thank you all enough for answering my question, I’ve longed to hear it discussed in a forum setting ever since it was birthed in my head, Thanks again, don’t stop the awesomeness! :D

]]> by: Farah http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89038 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:22:13 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89038 darling he was no antihero.. he WAS the villain XD maybe not the main one XD darling he was no antihero.. he WAS the villain XD maybe not the main one XD

]]> by: Zkiz http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89033 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:57:16 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-89033 Ahhh...Anti-heroes are awesome. Also I can think of another Anti -hero getting the girl, Hannibal Lector getting Clarice (more in the book ) XD Ahhh…Anti-heroes are awesome. Also I can think of another Anti -hero getting the girl, Hannibal Lector getting Clarice (more in the book ) XD

]]> by: RoseGilmroe http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88980 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:06:20 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88980 Great podcast!! Loved it!! That was soo great, and i loved the discussion topic!! Although at time Monica (mizsweet) and Erica (greenifyMe) 's mic spazzed! It's funny how you all take turns for your mic/internet to spaz. LOL Great job on uploading it withough ZMann. GIRL POWER!! YAY Great podcast!! Loved it!! That was soo great, and i loved the discussion topic!! Although at time Monica (mizsweet) and Erica (greenifyMe) ’s mic spazzed! It’s funny how you all take turns for your mic/internet to spaz. LOL Great job on uploading it withough ZMann. GIRL POWER!! YAY

]]> by: ChibiAngel86 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88971 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:38:07 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88971 Great podcast again! I wish I could download it so I could listen to it more. (I have dial up.) Great podcast again! I wish I could download it so I could listen to it more. (I have dial up.)

]]> by: Rachel http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88902 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:59:26 +0000 http://thezutarianoasis.podbean.com/2008/03/19/episode-2-wednesday-will-not-beat-us-down-haha/#comment-88902 OMG, this podcast is amazing. It's perfect, since I've currently gone into a major AWS thing. Can't wait till the next one! OMG, this podcast is amazing. It’s perfect, since I’ve currently gone into a major AWS thing. Can’t wait till the next one!

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